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Postby DMasut on Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:21 am

Does anyone know where I can find and recruit Thai food Chefs?

Using all the traditional methods haven't seemed to pan out.

I can find the occasional cook but and actual professionally trainred Thai food Chef seems to be near impossible unless I fly to Thailand, then the immigration issue becomes a problem unless they have a University Degree. Image Image

Please help if you know of a good source for finding someone with these skills
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Postby ChefJen on Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:43 pm

Well youve come to the right place just wrong part. Why not place an ad in the C2C job board which reaches a lot of chefs all over the world..

heres the link where you can read all about it

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Postby mark1 on Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:58 pm

I don't think you have to fly to Thailand when you're so close to a couple of major Thai concentrations. Hollywood Blvd. east of Vine St. is known as Thai Town, has loads of Thai restaurants and probably some disgruntled chefs looking to change. And on the weekends, North Hollywood on north Coldwater Canyon has a Thai temple with tons of vendors selling food of all types, so sounds like if you went and asked around, you might find somebody.
Also, don't know for sure, but wouldn't be surprised if there is a local Thai newspaper you could place an ad in.
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Postby rikkitikktavi on Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:11 am

Hi there,
just curious why you need to be so specific in finding a Thai born chef? Good luck, just fascinated with being regaled with tales of misfortune possibly?
Why?
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Postby RedBeansNRice on Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:36 am

I think the immigration issue isn't as big as you think. Plus in Thailand you do have educated Chefs as well. I think if you want to bring Thai Chefs over there could be 2 good options for you. One find a recruiter that specializes in finding international talent. I have known of many Chefs from France, and Europe that have come over to do 1 to 2 year stints in the US. There is a French/international publication over here that has an international section ripe full of recruiters names, and offerings, I won't mention it here, as I don't know if that would be un ethical. Also, if you don't speak Thai, and another problem being bringing a Thai Chef over, once he tries to do ordering, alot of the names for the vegetables he's looking for, and so forth, will be in the English version. I used to think that Zucchini, was Zucchini everywhere; because Zucchini never sounded very english to me. But it's not. Even if your Thai imported Chef from Thailand speaks English, that doesn't mean he knew there was a different word for his national dishes. The second option, which could be a good solution, is to bring over a Chef from England or a British speaking former colony. London has alot of great Curry and Thai fusion restaurants, and the US has a special agreement for bringing over English citizens uniquely to the US, and vice versa. This also might solve the cross over problem some Ethnic based Chefs have. They make their food how it's supposed to be done, with out having any idea for the taste budes of the locals. It might be the real deal, but too "ethnic" for the yokles. Finding some one that already has the experience with combining Thai cookery, into the local flavor, even if the locality might be across the Atlantic, might save you alot of time and heart ache. Or not. Or bring over a talented Chef and have him train your staff. I hope that helps.
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Postby DMasut on Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:49 pm

Thank you for your responses.

To answer a few of your questions:

1. The reason I look for Thai Chefs from Thailand is simple, there are no Thai Chefs in the USA excluding myself. The "Thai Cooks" that are in the USA have never stepped one foot into a Restaurant Kitchen prior to their arriving in the USA. In fact the US Government requires Thai people wishing to visit the USA to have about $25,000 in the bank to prove their ability to not to put a drain on government funds. Since the average Thai cook makes no more than $250.00 per month and a Chef with a Bachelors Degree and 4-5 years experience in a 4-5 diamond hotel only makes $300-$800 per month and the Executive Chefs $700-$1,200 it will be only those considered very wealthy coming to America. Which means those who do, have cooks, maids and servants and have never cooked for themselves let alone others. When these same people come to the USA, they see the absolute vacuum of many Thai restaurants but no real Thai food only Thai-Chinese and Thai Western versions and figure Americans will never know the difference between Thai and Chinese food which in most part is correct. So when you are eating Mongolian Beef look on the map an tell me what part of Thailand Mongolia is in?
So presently I am working with the Thai and USA Governments to work out better visa arrangements as well as in the middle stages to putting together a Thai Culinary School to train professional American Chefs and cooks authentic Thai food from some of the top Thai cuisine Chefs and Professors from the top 5 "Ivy League" Thai Universities. (Thailand has Bachelors and Master Degree programs in Thai Cuisine, in much the same way France does to be able to train Chefs for service into the Thai Royal Palace)

I have tried to hire American Chefs and bring them up to speed with Thai Cuisine but the results were disappointing.

I loved that American Chefs have wonderful compulsory skills, know how to use a knife, the difference between rare and well done and all degrees in between, health department issues and concerns, things NONE of the Thai cooks in America see to have a remote grasp of, which is horrific for me. However, the American Chefs while quick to pick up cooking techniques have too great a learning curve and find it too far to step back in order to move forward.

This is why I think the Thai Culinary schools will help tremendously.

Some suggest go to Ethnic recruitment forums where they have Asian and Thai Fusion, Chinese, Curry and other ethnic Chefs and cooks. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY COOK AND CALL IT THAI FUSION???!! BECAUSE THEY CAN'T COOK REAL THAI FOOD!!!

Pretty much if you told a Purist like myself that is Chef de Cuisine to accept Chinese food for Thai or Basque food for French.... I have a very important suggestion....

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Then turn your apron in at McDonalds and try a new line of work.

Finally, the suggestion to find those who work at Thai Town and even better, Wat Thai BRAVO!!! Been there, done that.... two probrlems still exist...

Thai Town only has 2 restaurants that cook authentic Thai food 6 or 7 out of 10 compared to Thailand. The rest serve Thai-Chinese dog food.... and like in Italy, most people that want the real thing do a better job at home, than they can find paying for it in a restaurant.

The weekend food market at Wat Thai Buddhist Temple is run mostly by amateur cooks using home made recipes... which are good.

But those of you who are professionally and classically trained Chefs realise cooking at home or for a few hundred is very different than cooking for several hundred daily. The health codes are not as closely observed and a food stall cook offering 3-5 dishes hardly warrants itself as a professional restaurant team.

Don't get me wrong... I LOVE THESE OLD THAI LADIES who put their heart and soul into their cuisine. I have even hired a few, only to realize the cannot keep up with the cook line, or even handle the rigors of the prep-line daily.

Finally, I have been Thailand and own a home for over 8 years there. I speak the language and have even spent 2 years as a Buddhist monk (by accident)(Italian boy Le Notre trained in Paris becomes Thai Chef...go figure)

In February of 2007 I recruited 208 of the top Thai Chefs in Thailand. The response was overwhelming since what I offered in Salary, stock and restaurant ownership would be like winning the lottery for them.

I interviewed the top 45 and in an Iron Chef competition had the top 8 Chefs cook the same 5 classic dishes on Taste, Authenticity and Presentation with freshness being the main theme. I offered five of them jobs provisional to their getting a visa.

All had B.A. or greater with 5-10 years experience in the top 10 hotels and restaurants in Thailand.

Two of them worked as Head Chefs at the Royal Palace, one was a University professor and at the top of the game.

None qualified for visas!!!

I am now raising about $5 million to open up a "flagship" restaurant in So. Cal and 3 smaller restaurants, the visiting Top Chef from Thailand and I are preparing a cooking show for both Thai and American Cable TV, and we have a Thai cookbook coming out to promote Thai Cuisine in America in hopes of getting Chefs in America trained, and as a larger company get the U.S. Immigration to ease the restrictions for their visas.

Thai food is then next big cuisine.

If you know of Chefs willing to step back and go into a new direction in learning real Thai food, or people interested in investing the school or restaurants have them email me direct here.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT AND OPINIONS

NEVER LOSE THE PASSION OR THE ART!!!!

THE REVOLUTION IS HERE!!! JOIN US!!!

The Révolution de Cuisine that is!!!!

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Postby mark1 on Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:16 pm

So what about Sunshine, Krua Thai, Swan Thai and Sri Siam, all in the San Fernando Valley and all highly rated, and none of which have amateur Thai moms cooking home recs in the kitchen.Then there was the Siamese Princess that operated very successfully for many years with a great Thai chef and currently several other Thai restos in the valley, L.A. and surrounding towns, appear to be very professional.
Also check out Jonathan gold at L.A. Weekly, who just won a Pulitzer for his resto writing and certainly knows his stuff, to see what he says about Thai in the area.
I acknowledge that in general, Thai food here doesn't compare to Thailand, but it isn't a disaster area either. If what you are proposing can elevate the level of Thai food in the area, that will be most welcome, but don't think it's necessary to denegrate the existing places.
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Postby mark1 on Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:27 pm

And I should have added that the four Thai restaurants I listed in the San Fernando Valley are highly rated by Thais, who presumably know quality Thai cuisine.
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Postby CPPCS on Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:48 pm

"Don't get me wrong... I LOVE THESE OLD THAI LADIES who put their heart and soul into their cuisine. I have even hired a few, only to realize the cannot keep up with the cook line, or even handle the rigors of the prep-line daily."
I work in a Thai restaurant where the BOH is primarily older Thai women who not only can handle a high volume line but have no problem working 12-14 hours/6 days a week. Also while I agree that Thai cooking is completely different from any other i've expierenced, I don't see learning the techniques as a step down/step back, but as an addition to my culinary repertoire. Image Rock the Wok!
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Postby jclara1 on Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:48 am

high standards are a must in this business but...i mean...we have excellent thai food here in freakin' mississippi. what i'm saying is that in California i'm almost certain that there is authentic thai food and probably not just one or two establishments...as for your search for a thai chef you're best off posting job ads on sites like this one, acfchefs.org, and hcareers.com.
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Postby baanthai on Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:28 am

I am a Thai Restauranter in Canada and I have no problems recruiting experienced Thai cooks from Thailand. I continually get emails from cooks applying eager to come over . Without Thai Chefs it is very hard trying to operate a cuisine which requires authenticity only a thai chef can provide. I have also tried recruiting cooks from canada but it is so difficult it is impossible trying to find anybody. I would suggest going to thailand and starting your own network of cooks. I have and I always have cooks on standby.
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