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Postby gmbchef on Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:40 pm

I am a chef instuctor here in CT. We have a very busy school and had a chef from our other campus come in to help out. He was "shadowing" me and asked a student how long the chicken he was working with was marinated. The student told him "about 24 hours". It was marinating in balsamic vinegar, olive oil, garlic and basil. This chef said that you're not supposed to marinate chicken, and he went on to tell me thats too long to marinate chicken.
All I know is the final dish had good flavor, good color and tender chicke.
Is there something I am missing here?
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Postby cheztom on Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:44 pm

I agree, I think 24 hours is too long, but given your marinade ingredients I wouldn't be too worried about the finished product. The worst that could happen is that you'd end up with a gooey, mushy texture with no firmness. Flavor's not gonna be an issue except that it might be overwhelming given the time frame. However, I'd keep a weather eye on how safely that chicken was handled - especially if students are in charge.

As to his opinion re; chicken marination - I don't agree.
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Re: question.... Save to MyRecipes

Postby mark1 on Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:59 pm

Also think 24 hours is too long to marinate chicken, but don't understand or agree with never marinating it. Just brining poultry doesn't cover every eventuality and there are sure a lot of tasty reasons to marinate chicken.
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Postby bighead on Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:02 pm

Marinade whatever you want to.
As far as how long, it all depends on how much acid is in your marinade.
We chefs are always going to have our own opinions. Pick which ones work best for you and stick with those.
Instruct your students to keep an open mind as no kitchen is exactly alike.
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Postby Max_Xavier on Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:20 pm

Balsamic Chicken Ceviche with a Salmonella Couli
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Postby RedBeansNRice on Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:44 am

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Postby bighead on Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:43 pm

Of course I should of mentioned cooking it after the marinade.
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Postby ChefFree on Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:05 am

Time and temperature controlled, you can marinate for 72 hours, why not?
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Postby sohail on Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:58 am

Now this is intersting, a chef who like to work with food chemistry told me that marinating for 4 hours is as good as an overnight marinating? Is that posssibly true?
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Postby Scratchman on Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:37 pm

Unless there is a chicken marination clause in the school charter, I would tell him to keep his opinions to himself until he gets his own class. The kids are not learned just to cook. They a learnig how to be leaders. They can't learned that if 1# tough guy chef is compromising your supreme authorrity in your class. I feel your pain I have been in that situation before( I was teaching high quality fluffy breakfast muffins, and in a rage another teacher flipped out over bits of wasted batter. I didn't know we were making tough cafateria muffins). If the results are good than how is it wrong. It's not like the kid stabbed someone, sometime the end does justify the means.

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Postby chefgbs on Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:01 pm

There's an old saying that goes like this:

"If you put 1000 chefs in a kitchen, they'll do things 1000 different ways."

I'd very politely tell him to bugger off.
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