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Postby aguynamedrobert on Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:35 pm

Thanks for putting that address on here! I was just about to do it myself...

What this proposed FDA law would do is make it so that up to 100% of the cocoa butter in chocolate could be replaced by vegetable fats and they could still call it Chocolate! So when you buy a bar of "fine chocolate" there would be a possibility that there is vegetable fats in it and not cocoa butter.

Cocoa butter is important because of the way it melts. If this change occurs the companies that use vegetable fats will have chocolate that will have a horrible melting property and ruin the taste and feel of the chocolate.

This law will confuse people on what real chocolate is in a time when people WANT REAL CHOCOLATE!

So write in to the FDA! All the instructions are on the link below and it only takes a minute. Go tell them that you don't want to allow vegetable oils in Chocolate!

Don't Mess With Our Chocolate!
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Postby SmokeyJoe on Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:09 pm

just like theyve destroyed vanilla, whats next pistachio?
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Postby mark1 on Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:26 pm

just like theyve destroyed vanilla, whats next pistachio?


What did they do to vanilla?
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Postby SmokeyJoe on Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:02 pm

LOL well, Vanilla, or at least the process of making vanilla a method develope by indians that involves a demanding curing process wich developes vanillas destinctive flavor compounds. Theyve since developed alternate methods of acheiving what is considered an easier more productive method that doesnt take as long or what have you. Other than that unless your buying your own vanilla pods if its in an ingredient your purchasing its synthetic all together.
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Postby chefelle on Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:22 pm

Why, why, WHY does the government feel the need to mess with my medicine??? Ha! Ha!
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Postby chef_to_be on Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:00 pm

Done, done, and done. Now to pass on that little nugget of information. Don't they have anything better to do than to fix something that isn't broke?
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Postby SmokeyJoe on Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:04 pm

im witing for them to competely synthesize cocoa
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Postby mark1 on Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:00 am

Sorry but you lost me on this vanilla thing. Are you talking about the phoney Mexican vanilla the FDA banned because it contained coumarin, whose derivitive goes into rat poison?
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Postby bohica on Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:49 am

Sorry but you lost me on this vanilla thing. Are you talking about the phoney Mexican vanilla the FDA banned because it contained coumarin, whose derivitive goes into rat poison?



I think they are talking about the common use of alcohol used to extract the vanilla flavors from the bean pods.
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Postby SmokeyJoe on Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:09 am

No im not talking about either of those.
Because vanilla is so much in demand, and because it's so expensive, synthetics are often used instead of natural vanilla. In fact, 97% of vanilla used as a flavor and fragrance is synthetic.
Thats what im talking about synthetics. That is what we are talking about isnt it?
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Postby mark1 on Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:22 pm

No im not talking about either of those.
Because vanilla is so much in demand, and because it's so expensive, synthetics are often used instead of natural vanilla. In fact, 97% of vanilla used as a flavor and fragrance is synthetic.
Thats what im talking about synthetics. That is what we are talking about isnt it?


Hey, you brought up the subject, this thread is about chocolate so you're the one "talking" about it. And nobody but you ever mentioned synthetics.
And what the hell does anything you wrote have to do with the FDA?
FYI "real" vanilla is not that expensive any more, the price on it went down dramatically.
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Postby aguynamedrobert on Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:08 pm

I think smokeyjoe was just relating this new situation with chocolate to other things the FDA might slack on...Either way I think Chocolate in itself is becoming a Fine Food like wine or cheese so we need to protect the labeling practices in the market...

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Postby SmokeyJoe on Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:56 pm

Yea pretty much the bastardization of all that is pure and holy. Some things are more than just a flavor they are a labor of love. Such as chocolate (or vanilla?). The question being if a flavor compund can be created using less than desirable measures does it raise a flag? Of course substituting cheaper or less volotile fats to the chocolate instead of cocoa butter is to me remenicent of the use of flavorings and other extracts in liu of vanilla beans.

And Mark what I wrote has about as much to do with the FDA as anything you wrote so relax and let a brother speak,
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Postby jonesg on Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:02 pm

Its not going to happen.

Even if it did , Intl regulations won't change and those are the ones which count.

Lets not act like hairdressers, ok lets.!
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Postby lebelage on Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:07 pm

Ok... someone shampoo jones while I tell him who's sleeping with who.
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